Is there another way to enter swing, apart from the swing row in the tracker?

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Mesmerized
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Is there another way to enter swing, apart from the swing row in the tracker?

Post by Mesmerized » 29 May 2021 14:48

"FL Studio like" I mean; where you have this slider that you drag from 0 to 100%? I am afraid I don't like the sound of the swing when entering numbers into the tracker - I really want an FL studio like swing that is more precise? If it does not exist, maybe this could be a plan for a future update? :) The #1 reason I am trying out radium is that I am looking for that special swing.



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Re: Is there another way to enter swing, apart from the swing row in the tracker?

Post by kjetil » 29 May 2021 14:58

I've been thinking about adding a swing slider (edit: since radium's support for swing is very low-level), but I'm not sure if a slider would make the swing "more precise". I think you have to look at the documentation for the swing slider in FL, and find out what it really does. Then you can probably do the same in Radium...

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Re: Is there another way to enter swing, apart from the swing row in the tracker?

Post by kjetil » 29 May 2021 15:13

I found this example of the FL swing: https://www.synapticsound.com/fl-studio-swing/

This is a lot simpler than Radium, both in terms of simplicity, and what it can do. In Radium you have a lot more possibilities, but it's also more work to create/edit: http://users.notam02.no/~kjetism/radium ... ramed.html

So, for instance, I think a 25% FL-swing looks like this in Radium:
5
--
4
--
5
--
4
--
etc.
(i.e. (5-4)/4 = 25%)

A 50% FL-swing looks like this:
3
--
2
--
3
--
2
--
etc.
(i.e. (3-2)/2 = 50%)


A 75% FL-swing looks like this:
7
--
4
--
7
--
4
--
etc.
(i.e. (7-4)/4 = 75%)

And so forth.

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Re: Is there another way to enter swing, apart from the swing row in the tracker?

Post by kjetil » 29 May 2021 15:25

Or simply set every even 16th note to 99, and then you can edit the odd 16th notes until you find a fitting swing.

For instance this:

99
--
50
--
99
--
50
--
etc.

is a 98% swing.


And this:

99
--
75
--
99
--
75
--
etc.

is a 32% swing.

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Re: Is there another way to enter swing, apart from the swing row in the tracker?

Post by Mesmerized » 29 May 2021 16:08

Hmm, thanks for taking your time with the extensive info, but I simply cannot get the same type of swing sound like in fl studio in this manner... maybe I am missing something? The fl studio swing swings in a different fashion somehow when I compare them side by side. As I am not as technical as you I cannot describe it in words =/

Maybe I am to dumb for this tracker at the moment, hehe, but I don't think they swing the same somehow? Maybe you could compare yourself? I could upload a .wav to soundcloud otherwise that illustrates it?

I have tried putting them under same % as in the math formulas you gave me for the tracker.

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Re: Is there another way to enter swing, apart from the swing row in the tracker?

Post by kjetil » 29 May 2021 16:15

Hi, it's possible that the examples are inverted. Maybe try instead to use the lower number for even 16th notes, and the bigger number for the odd 16th notes.

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Re: Is there another way to enter swing, apart from the swing row in the tracker?

Post by Mesmerized » 29 May 2021 16:17

Hmm, made some progress: I acidentally entered this:

99
74|
99
74|
99
74| etc, without spacing in between the lines, and that got me closer than so far to the fl studio swing but I dont think it's quite there.

Will explore more.

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Re: Is there another way to enter swing, apart from the swing row in the tracker?

Post by Mesmerized » 29 May 2021 16:17

kjetil wrote:
29 May 2021 16:15
Hi, it's possible that the examples are inverted. Maybe try instead to use the lower number for even 16th notes, and the bigger number for the odd 16th notes.
OK, will try :)

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Re: Is there another way to enter swing, apart from the swing row in the tracker?

Post by kjetil » 29 May 2021 16:44

Yeah, I think you're right. When LPB=4, every 4th line is a quarter note, every 2nd line is an 8th note, and each line is a 16th note, and the FL swing operates on 16th notes according to https://www.synapticsound.com/fl-studio-swing/ .

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