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Questions about Pd, the yellow lines in the mixer, and glide to next note

Posted: 17 May 2020 18:23
by brandflake11
Hello!

I am a new user of Radium, and I had a couple of questions about how the program works.

First off, sometimes in the modular mixer window, I have noticed I can create a yellow line between the objects (which is different from the purple audio send lines). Is this a midi send line, and if so, how do I know which object is sending to which?

Second, it is really awesome that you can send notes into and out of a pd object with the |notein| and |noteout| pd objects. Is it possible to send and receive cc data into and out of pd in Radium using the |ctlin| and |ctlout| objects? I have tried to do this, but it does not seem to work.

Thank you for your time!

Re: Questions about Pd the yellow lines in the mixer

Posted: 17 May 2020 19:49
by kjetil
brandflake11 wrote: 17 May 2020 18:23 Hello!

I am a new user of Radium, and I had a couple of questions about how the program works.

First off, sometimes in the modular mixer window, I have noticed I can create a yellow line between the objects (which is different from the purple audio send lines). Is this a midi send line, and if so, how do I know which object is sending to which?
Yes, it's for sending musical data such as MIDI. You can also send per-note pitch and velocity through them. Earlier you could see the direction by how they were connected, but there seems to be a bug there now causing the yellow lines to be painted below the sound objects. Should probably paint an arrow or something too.

Second, it is really awesome that you can send notes into and out of a pd object with the |notein| and |noteout| pd objects. Is it possible to send and receive cc data into and out of pd in Radium using the |ctlin| and |ctlout| objects? I have tried to do this, but it does not seem to work.

Thank you for your time!
No, sorry that doesn't seem to be implemented.

Re: Questions about Pd the yellow lines in the mixer

Posted: 17 May 2020 20:38
by kjetil
Not much work to implement though: https://github.com/kmatheussen/radium/c ... 060ecde090

The reason it wasn't implemented was probably because it wasn't possible to send MIDI between radium instruments when the Pd object was made.

Re: Questions about Pd the yellow lines in the mixer

Posted: 17 May 2020 21:21
by brandflake11
Wow, thanks for implementing that! That was fast! I plan on using that with |snapshot~| to do ducking and other weird stuff!

I have two more questions that I hope are okay to ask on this same thread:

When in the Editor, is there a keyboard command to turn a note into a glide easily? I can know I can click on the note column and drag to make an easy glide, but it would be much faster for me to say press 'f' or something and get a note glide.

You can place the cursor at the last line of the note, and press AltGr + Return. I'll think about how to make it easier. Pressing 'f' or something would probably be nice.

And the second question: is it possible to add more externals to pd? Like, I want to get csound into Radium somehow, and the pd object for it rocks! I found the folder of pd objects in /opt/radium/packages/libpd-master/pure-data/extra. If I were to add externals there, would it break loading of Radium and would I be able to save/load projects that I have done with that external, assuming the external would be loading correctly?

It's not possible to add externals. They must be compiled into Radium. The csound object is probably too big (?), but it's possible to add externals on request.

(Sorry, I edited your message by mistake. I think I removed a thank you line. -Kjetil)

Re: Questions about Pd, the yellow lines in the mixer, and glide to next note

Posted: 18 May 2020 08:51
by kjetil
Wow, thanks for implementing that! That was fast! I plan on using that with |snapshot~| to do ducking and other weird stuff!

I have two more questions that I hope are okay to ask on this same thread:
Please add a new thread for each topic or include all topics in the subject line.

When in the Editor, is there a keyboard command to turn a note into a glide easily? I can know I can click on the note column and drag to make an easy glide, but it would be much faster for me to say press 'f' \
or something and get a note glide.
You can place the cursor at the last line of the note, and press AltGr + Return. I'll think about how to make it easier. Pressing 'f' or something would probably be nice. You can also right-click a note in the piano-roll and select "Glide to next node" or select "Glide to next note at mouse position"

And the second question: is it possible to add more externals to pd? Like, I want to get csound into Radium somehow, and the pd object for it rocks! I found the folder of pd objects in /opt/radium/packages/libp\
d-master/pure-data/extra. If I were to add externals there, would it break loading of Radium and would I be able to save/load projects that I have done with that external, assuming the external would be loading\
correctly?
It's not possible to add externals. They must be compiled into Radium. The csound object is probably too big (?), but it's possible to add externals on request.

Re: Questions about Pd, the yellow lines in the mixer, and glide to next note, and pd external capabilities

Posted: 18 May 2020 15:15
by brandflake11
Thanks for the reply! The AltGr+Return shortcut is really nice, I like how you can add in cents with that too. Hope to see a dedicated key for glide, I would gladly donate for that feature alone, that way I don't have to touch the mouse!

As far as externals are concerned, I can just route another pd into Radium for this kind of thing with Jack, if needed for csound, or the |hid| object, etc.

I really appreciate your help and development of Radium!