Playing ZynAddSubFX/ZynFusion with MIDI-keyboard inside radium

[TheYke]

Hi there, me again,
noticed another thing, which I cannot figure out. Not sure if it's a user-error/bug in zyn or in radium.

When I load the Zyn-Fusion vst inside radium I can play it as normal with the pc-keyboard. When played via a MIDI-keyboard the notes get triggered but they fade out quickly (~ 1/2s) while recording even if it's a sustained pad-sound e.g..
MIDI-data gets recorded correctly inside the editor, though. That means if I record sustained notes, they will not be played sustained, but short while recording but after that, when I replay the recorded MIDI-data, the sustained notes will be triggered as normal.

Any idea on this? Haven't encountered this with other DAWs when using Zyn.

Thanks again.

[kjetil]

Hi, I can't reproduce it, but it does actually sound like something I've experienced before. Does it only happen with zyn-fusion? Does it happen if you restart Radium? Does it happen if you try on a new song?

[TheYke]

Okay let's see....
if I startup a brand new instance of radium and put Zyn-Fusion on it it happens ...
No issues with surge, helm or u-he podolski ...
Same when opening a new clean project after startup: Zyn-Fusion cuts off sustained notes, other vst's don't.

Seems like it's only Zyn-Fusion and persistent across new projects and on startup.

EDIT:typos

[kjetil]

I've downloaded the demo of zynaddsubfx/zyn-funsion 3.0.0 for linux now, but I can't reproduce it.

[kjetil]

Can you temporarily rename your config file and see if it works then?

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cd ~/.radium
mv config config_org

[TheYke]

Just tried with wiped out config file. same result, unfortunately

EDIT: I could try and see if the problem occurs for me in the demo, too...
EDIT: I'm on 3.0.5 by the way

[kjetil]

Can you try vkeybd or another virtual MIDI keyboard instead of a physical MIDI keyboard? I don't have a physical MIDI keyboard right now. Maybe it's caused by active sensing sent out by the MIDI keyboard, and zynaddsubfx is not able to handle it. The other hosts may be filtering out active sensing.

[kjetil]

Seems like there is a bug in Radium. If the option

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"MIDI Input: Use the MIDI channel ..."

under Edit -> Preferences -> MIDI is enabled, active sensing messages seems to be transformed into something else (into this actually: (0xfe & 0xf0) + channel). Does it work if you disable that option?

[Carotino]

Hi.
I'm trying to reproduce it, too, in order to help, but I'm not able. I'm using an external MIDI keyboard with ZynAddSubFX VST (ZynFusion) 3.0.4 but notes are not truncated.

[TheYke]

Thanks for all your efforts,
if I play it through VMPK virtual MIDI keyboard it works fine.
Unfortunately

Seems like there is a bug in Radium. If the option

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"MIDI Input: Use the MIDI channel ..."

under Edit -> Preferences -> MIDI is enabled, active sensing messages seems to be transformed into something else (into this actually: (0xfe & 0xf0) + channel). Does it work if you disable that option?

this didn't make any difference. Maybe it's related to Zyn 3.0.5?