Properly using Radium with WIndows

[DanceAlone]

Hello All,

I am very excited to use Radium as it clearly has ALL of the features that I've wanted Renoise to incorporate for YEARS!!!

I am currently trying to use the demo, BUT ..... I am running into the most stupifying problems (as I feel very stupid for not being able to figure this out on my own).

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I CAN NOT get qjackctl to run ....... like not even that I'm trying to do anything with it .... I can't even run it.
I am on Windows 10. I do have ASIO4ALL installed. I've used every suggested command I could find on the internet (in the advanced server pre-fix).

I thought that maybe I needed to install Jack Manually, so I went to the JACK website and installed jack (using the .exe file). It looks like the jack install instructions are out of date

The site says to register Jack using the following command:
regsvr32 "C:\Program Files (x86)\Jack v1.9.8\64bits\JackRouter.dll" ....

But, with that command .... there is a "JACK2" folder that is made (not JACK v1.9.8) and there is NO "64bits" folder or a "JackRouter.dll" ....... Why wouldn't the "JACK 1.9.16 win32" or "JACK 1.9.16 win64" contain the JackRouter.dll. I searched the site to see if maybe there was a specific download for it and found nothing.

By chance, is there anyone running Radium on Windows 10 that can explain the installation process of JACK and/or Radium?

[DanceAlone]

Okay,

I have found a workaround .... Running the demo without qjackctl
And I completely uninstalled the global JACK.

Just in case anyone else runs into this problem .... here's what I did

1. DON'T OPEN QJACKCTL AT ALL and ignore the "README first.txt"

2. open up cmd

3. change directory "cd" to the folder:
"C:\Program Files\radium_64bit_windows-6.5.86-demo\bin\jack_local"

4. type "jackd.exe -R -S -d portaudio -d "ASIO::ASIO4ALL" and press enter

5. Launch Radium


Amazing piece of software by the way

[kjetil]

Hi, thanks for reporting and the recipe! I'll update the README_first.txt text.

Regarding your problems with qjackctl, it seems like jackd failed there because qjackctl provided the -r, -p, and -P options. Qjackctl should probably have a "default" options for those, and not provide the -r, -p and -P options if "default" was set. I'll see if I can fix that.

BTW when installing jack globally, you don't need to run the regsvr32 command. That's just to enable a wrapper ("JackRouter") to make ASIO programs appear as jack programs, but it's not necessary to run jack or radium. (It's not a part of jack anymore. You can download it here: https://github.com/jackaudio/jack-route ... n/binaries)

[kjetil]

Another note. Opening qjackctl doesn't screw up running jack manually from the terminal, so it's safe to try running qjackctl first. Also, the file README_first.txt does actually say the same thing as number 4 in the recipe above, as a last resort, so I don't really understand why it should be ignored.

Anyway, in Radium 6.5.87, a new version of qjackctl is included that shouldn't have this particular problem.

[DanceAlone]

Cheers,

Radium is awesome btw ...

[wpostma]

It looks like RADIUM includes an embedded jack SERVER WHICH IT USES but it still ships with a jack exe and a readme that suggests using it.

Really Radium should just install with an installer, and not bother shipping a qjackctl or a readme, that suggests jack installation.

The current situation is odd and quirky. I could help with creating an installer. I would suggest that the jack binaries and instructions needs a replacement.

There are also few tutorials and I don't see an up to date manual is there one?

[kjetil]

The Radium executable does not embed a jack server, if that's what you mean. The jackd.exe that is included in the zip file is a special version of jack that is included so people can use jack without having to install jack. But jack is not necessary to run Radium.

Why do you think an installer would be good? I've only heard good feedback about radium not needing an installer, and I don't want an installer personally either.